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Feed rules - new format - only set to available

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Hi,

 

I'm regularly using feed rules to change values but the interface has changed. I see the 'find & replace' and 'extract' tabs but I can't select them. I only can use the 'Set to' tag. I'm not sure if this is a bug or if I'm missing something here

 

Anyone experiencing the same?

 

Kind regards,
Pieter-jan

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that sounds correct.

 

currently, the new feed-rules

do not yet support all features --

google has not published a schedule of

when those features may be available.

 

one possible alternative may be the new

supplemental-feed feature -- which adds

a file/spreadsheet as a feed-rule that will

override the primary-feed for a specific

subset of attributes.

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that sounds correct.

 

currently, the new feed-rules

do not yet support all features --

google has not published a schedule of

when those features may be available.

 

one possible alternative may be the new

supplemental-feed feature -- which adds

a file/spreadsheet as a feed-rule that will

override the primary-feed for a specific

subset of attributes.

Feed rules - new format - only set to available

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I used the feed rules to group products that were on sale and group these in one product group. With the new feed rules I can only change an attribute for all products. Is this also possible with the supplemental feed?

Feed rules - new format - only set to available

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the supplemental-feed can replace data in, or add data to, the primary-feed --
importantly perhaps, the supplemental-feed data can be created by-hand,
or formulated externally, with extremely complex rules, using a variety of

methods -- server-side scripts, spreadsheet functions, etc.

in the case of selecting (sale) items, the details primarily depend on
the inventory size, the exact set of criteria used for the selection,
and the attributes used.

otherwise, this is mainly a peer-to-peer forum --
forum-members cannot look into any accounts or
any submitted data; posting such specific details
here in public, may allow other forum-members
to offer more specific suggestions.

otherwise, for account-specific guidance google may be contacted --
when communicating with google, indicating, early on, that the
issue relates to shopping-ads and merchant-center primary and
supplemental feeds may help.

 

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We've run into the same problem as well, it's frustrating to have lost functionality due to the update. 

 

Supplemental Feeds add some extra functionality, but it's not a replacement for the two other options. Hopefully Google will re enable them soon, since we have some rules we cannot recreate until we get these options back. 

 

Feed rules - new format - only set to available

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Thanks for your answer @Celebird. I understand this is a p2p forum but I found it hard to get more details about this. In the mean time I found out that supplemental feeds need to contain all the id-attributes as in the primary feed. https://support.google.com/merchants/answer/7503577

Feed rules - new format - only set to available

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first, you're welcome.

that does not sound correct -- a simple empirical test
should demonstrate that there is no need to supply all
id's or all attributes that exist in the primary feed;
any valid subset should be processed and applied.

the supplemental-feed may have only one, single, item,

with an id and a single attribute; while the primary-feed

may have dozens of attributes and thousands of items.

the id must match an item within the primary-feed --
or the supplemental data will simply be ignored.

since the supplemental-feed can be created server-side or with spreadsheets,
programmatic-rules have the ability to far exceed limits of the old feed-rules;
the major drawback is that there is no easy-to-use predefined user-interface.

otherwise, since google has not indicated when or if the same rules-features
will be implemented in the new-feed-rules, planning to implement the changes,
at the source, to create the primary-feed, may be prudent.