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Why Show Removed Entities in Adwords Editor?

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I find this extremely annoying as I make changed throughout a campaign which may involve mass removing items and as certain items appear as "Paused" when in fact it's been deleted and removed it causes an error when posting the changes.

 

My issue is, WHY have deleted items show up in Editor? We cannot re-activate them any more so what is the point of it?

 

Please can this be noted for the update of the editor to be fixed, we do not need to see removed entities in editor, if we want to see it, we can look in Ad words browser interface.

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Re: Why Show Removed Entities in Adwords Editor?

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At the time this Editor release was built and shipped, and for years before that, you *could* in fact reactivate removed campaigns and as groups, and you could freely edit anything under them.

A couple months ago, server-side behavior has changed. AdWords system no longer allows changing the status of removed campaigns and ad groups, nor making any changes whatsoever to these campaigns and ad groups or anything under them.

As this happened in the middle of our release cycle, current Editor version is unaware of this new behavior, and labors under the old rules. This is why it allows you to make, and attempt to upload, changes that the server ultimately rejects.

The next Editor release will mark such changes as errors, and won't try to post them. So at least they won't interfere with other, legitimate changes you are trying to post.

As to "let's not see removed campaigns" - it's complicated. Imagine that you have an active campaign. You are busy adding a new ad group to it and building it out in Editor. Meanwhile, someone else removes the campaign in the online interface. Later, you run "Get recent changes", at which point Editor discovers that the campaign has in fact been removed. What should it do now? Should it wipe out the campaign from its local data store, losing all unposted changes underneath? Or should it keep the campaign? You won't be able to post your new ad group under this now-removed campaign, but at least you'll be able to copy/paste it elsewhere and not lose your work.

The next Editor release will do the latter (the current release does, too, simply because it's not aware that removed campaigns are now "special").

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At the time this Editor release was built and shipped, and for years before that, you *could* in fact reactivate removed campaigns and as groups, and you could freely edit anything under them.

A couple months ago, server-side behavior has changed. AdWords system no longer allows changing the status of removed campaigns and ad groups, nor making any changes whatsoever to these campaigns and ad groups or anything under them.

As this happened in the middle of our release cycle, current Editor version is unaware of this new behavior, and labors under the old rules. This is why it allows you to make, and attempt to upload, changes that the server ultimately rejects.

The next Editor release will mark such changes as errors, and won't try to post them. So at least they won't interfere with other, legitimate changes you are trying to post.

As to "let's not see removed campaigns" - it's complicated. Imagine that you have an active campaign. You are busy adding a new ad group to it and building it out in Editor. Meanwhile, someone else removes the campaign in the online interface. Later, you run "Get recent changes", at which point Editor discovers that the campaign has in fact been removed. What should it do now? Should it wipe out the campaign from its local data store, losing all unposted changes underneath? Or should it keep the campaign? You won't be able to post your new ad group under this now-removed campaign, but at least you'll be able to copy/paste it elsewhere and not lose your work.

The next Editor release will do the latter (the current release does, too, simply because it's not aware that removed campaigns are now "special").

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Thanks for explaining it! Makes sense that the change was not originally conceived in the new editor and glad it will be fixed in the new update.

Also agree with you on the "removed campaigns" scenario as people do work on the interface and editor simultaneously and the option you guys have decided to take is the best one rather than losing possibly hours of work.

Thanks again for picking this up!

Amish

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@AdWordsEng-Igor
Can you confirm that this is now resolved in the latest release? Thanks for the awesome explanation.

Re: Why Show Removed Entities in Adwords Editor?

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Yes it is resolved in the upcoming release, in the way I described earlier: Editor will mark with errors any changes to removed campaigns/ad groups as well as their children, and will skip such changes on upload (since we now know for sure they'll fail anyway).

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Perfect. Thanks for the prompt reply. You guys are just awesome. Keep up the amazing work. I cannot imagine how difficult my life would be without you and your product. Smiley Happy

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When is the upcoming release available to us all?

Re: Why Show Removed Entities in Adwords Editor?

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The new release has arrived. Download it manually, or wait for auto-update to kick in sometime within the next 24 hours.